To make matters worse, Jews often, secretly or not so secretly, conceive themselves to be morally and intellectually superior to their neighbors...Indeed, Jews are extremely successful outsiders who sometimes have the temerity to rub it in (The Fatal Embrace, p. ix, as cited in Piper's The New Jerusalem). (Sungenis, Neo-Cons and the Jewish Connection, September, 2005, source)
To make matters worse, Jews often, secretly or not so secretly, conceive themselves to be morally and intellectually superior to their neighbors...Indeed, Jews are extremely successful outsiders who sometimes have the temerity to rub it in (The Fatal Embrace, p. ix, as cited in Piper's The New Jerusalem). (Sungenis, Politics, Religion, Israel and the Seduction of the Catholic Voter, p. 38, source)
Caller: To take this slightly away from religion, or, mostly away from religion for a little bit, I think the whole thing can best be explained by Benjamin Franklin's statement to the Continental Congress in 1789, when he warned them, "Gentleman, if you let them in, in 200 years your children - your descendants, rather - will be cursing you in your graves, because they will be in the fields as slaves, while the ones you let in" - and we know who they're talking about - "will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands." That was Benjamin Franklin's statement, and I think it explains the whole thing. Because the man knew, he was a student of history - and he wasn't the only one - but he was a student of history who knew - he knew what they'd done in Europe, and all the countries in Europe that they'd been kicked out of, over and over again, because it's the same game plan for these people, no matter where they are, where they go, it's always the same game plan - has been for 2,000 years.
Bob: Yeah, as a matter of fact, just to add to what you're saying - we've been quoting Benjamin Ginzberg a lot on this program, and here's what he says, along those same lines - he says, "to make matters worse, Jews often, secretly or not so secretly, conceive themselves to be morally and intellectually superior to their neighbors. Indeed, Jews are extremely successful outsiders who sometimes have the temerity to rub it in." That comes from The Fatal Embrace, page Roman numeral nine. (Sungenis, on the radio program Mark Dankhof's America, February 23, 2007)
Speaking of quotes falsely attributed to men named Benjamin, the quote from Benjamin Ginsberg might be fraudulent as well. I haven't read the whole book The Fatal Embrace, so the quote might be in there somewhere. But it certainly is not on p. ix. I told Bob this a long time ago, when I did all the digging to give him the primary sources he needed for his essays, thus obviating his reliance on Hoffman, Piper, et al. He agreed to remove the quote, and it no longer appears in the updated version of his essay:
http://www.catholicintl.com/noncatholicissues/JNC.pdf
Though apparently he left it in another version: http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/pastoral/priscv.pdf (see p. 38)
And it would appear that he is back to his old tricks again. (Ben Douglass, comment left on Sungenis's Views on Display at Republic Broadcasting Network)
Here is page ix of Ginsberg's book. The reader is invited to attempt to locate the quote anywhere on this page.
When the reader has given up on this hopeless task, he is invited to read this excerpt from pages seven and eight of Ginsberg's book. The portion Bob quoted is in bold, while the rather enlightening contextual bits he left out are in bold red.
Certainly, everywhere that Jews have lived, their social or economic marginality - their position, "outside society," as Hannah Arendt put it - sooner or later exposed Jews to suspicion, hostility, and discrimination. Even in multiethnic societies, Jews have usually been the most successful and visible - and, hence, the most exposed - outsiders. In America, Jews currently appear to be accepted by the larger community. Nevertheless, at least in part by their own choosing, American Jews continue to maintain a significant and visible measure of communal identity and distinctiveness in religious, cultural, and political matters. At the same time, most gentiles continue to perceive Jews to be a peculiar and distinctive group. Though Jews have learned to look, talk, and dress like other Americans, they are not fully assimilated either in their own minds or in the eyes of their neighbors. Even in America, the marginality of the Jews makes them at least potentially vulnerable to attack.
In America as elsewhere, moreover, Jews are outsiders who are often more successful than their hosts. Because of their historic and, in part, religiously grounded emphasis on education and literacy, when given an opportunity Jews have tended to prosper. And, to make matters worse, Jews often, secretly or not so secretly, conceive themselves to be morally and intellectually superior to their neighbors. Jews, to be sure, by no means have a monopoly on group or national snobbery. In contemporary America every group is encouraged to take pride in its special heritage and achievements. The problem is that Jews as a group are more successful than virtually all the others. Indeed, Jews are extremely successful outsiders who sometimes have the temerity to rub it in. As one outraged right-wing columnist noted recently, a Yiddish synonym for dullard or dope is "goyischer kopf," that is, someone who thinks like a non-Jew.
The question with which this book is concerned, however, is not so much the roots of anti-Jewish sentiment as the conditions under which such sentiment is likely to be politically mobilized. As we shall see, where an anti-Semitic politics becomes important, usually more is involved than simple malice toward the Jews. In politics, principles - even as unprincipled a principle as anti-Semitism - are seldom completely divorced from some set of political interests. In the case of anti-Semitism, major organized campaigns against the Jews usually reflect not only ethnic hatred, they also represent efforts by the political opponents of regimes or movements with which Jews are allied to destroy or supplant them. Anti-Semitism has an instrumental as well as an emotive character. Thus, to understand the cycle of Jewish success and anti-Semitic attack - and to understand why the United States is not exceptional - it is necessary to consider the place of Jews in politics particularly, as Hannah Arendt noted long ago, their peculiar relationship to the state. (Benjamin Ginsberg, The Fatal Embrace [Chicago, IL: The University of Chicago Press, 1993], pp. 7-8)
And so yet again, Bob is caught quoting secondary sources as though they were primary sources, giving bad reference information, and leaving out rather important contextual statements - and all of this, even after he was informed by Ben Douglass back in 2006 that his source information was incorrect.
But what did Mark Wyatt say, once upon a time, when Bob was caught using a bogus quote in his Galileo Was Wrong manuscript?
Seeing that the quote appeared not accurate, I asked Robert about it, and upon investigation he admits that in fact the quote is incorrect. He has checked out practically every quote in the book for accuracy, unfortunately , that one he did not. He says he has purchased thousands of dollars worth of books and articles during the research phase, and carefully checked (and in some cases rejected / corrected) the quotes. The person who made the advertisement also liked the quote, so he used it in the ad.
He personally thanks you, since in fact he has not sent out the first CD's yet, and will expunge the quote (or correct it as makes sense) from both the ad and the book. He is a stickler for literary accuracy, and in fact it is a good thing you pointed this out. (Mark Wyatt, in defense of Bob Sungenis, source)
A "stickler for literary accuracy"? That statement is, at this point, just plain laughable.
And so, we turn again, with a new perspective, to Bob's claims about his own research:
The Jews are the best sources of information to talk about the Jews, it's amazing. That's what I found in doing my research. (Sungenis, on the radio program Mark Dankhof's America, February 23, 2007)
No, that is not what Bob has found in his research, because he hasn't done the primary research that would lead him to actually read the works of Jewish authors. What he meant to say above is that other anti-Jewish authors who quote Jews out of context are "the best sources of information to talk about the Jews." That is what he has "found" in doing his "research."
