Wednesday, May 9, 2007

Why Is Sungenis Jumping on the "Dump Limbo" Bandwagon?

(** Additions 5/14 **)

Recently, Robert Sungenis had the following to say:

Sungenis: "Sometimes there is a germ of doctrine in the Fathers which is enhanced by the medieval theologians, but which the Church eventually rejects (e.g., limbo)...The case of Limbo is especially significant since Pope Benedict XVI recently approved a papal commission document that essentially removed Limbo from the teaching of the Church. This shows that even cherished theological ideas from tradition, if not officially accepted and dogmatized by the Church, can be eliminated by a future pope or council."
(Sungenis, "Will Enoch and Elijah Return to Earth to Preach to the Jews?", p. 3, fn. 2)


**The article/quote above is an excerpt from Sungenis's upcoming Catholic Apologetics Study Bible.**

Question: Why would such an historically staunch defender of tradition and a critic of novelty be so quick to believe and accept that a teaching like Limbo has been tossed aside? Certainly there were varied and somewhat contradictory views (for instance, St. Augustine taught that unbaptized infants go to hell). But Limbo is usually defended with intensity by those with Traditionalist leanings. So why the eagerness?

One word: Jews. It seems that Sungenis was eager to enlist the purported rejection of Limbo in order to give more credence to his odd hostility to the vast and consistent Catholic witness that something decidely positive like an unusual "Conversion of the Jews" to Christ will take place in the last days. While there are differences in the details (a phenomenon seen even in dogmas, like the Immaculate Conception for instance), there is solid, historical consistency in terms of the expectation itself (read here and here).

As was pointed out at Robert Sungenis and the Jews, Sungenis adopts radically different standards depending on how his agenda is served. In the case of something decidedly negative, like the Antichrist being of Jewish ancestry, Sungenis has been eager to claim that this is "unofficially declared" by "Catholic tradition" and that "the Fathers" taught this expectation. Indeed, the bar he establishes is quite low:

Sungenis: “…Antichrist, who, according to the Fathers, is supposed to have his ancestry in the tribe of Dan.” (here)

Sungenis: “In fact,…Catholic tradition… has unofficially declared that the future Antichrist will be of Jewish extraction." (here)


Yet, there is far less evidence for this belief among the Church Fathers than for the "Conversion of the Jews" in the last days (although to be clear, this is not intended as a statement against the idea that the Antichrist may have Jewish ancestry).

Once again, Sungenis gives evidence that his animus toward Jews drives even his theology. If tossing Limbo will help promote his anti-Jewish agenda, out it goes, and with gratitude.

In this case, however, Bob betrays the fact that he is once again working exclusively with secondary sources. The actual study written by the International Theological Commission explicitly says that Limbo "remains a possible theological option," contrary to Bob's claim that Limbo has now been "removed" from "the teaching of the Church." For more on this, see Jacob Michael's article on the subject here.

When it comes to whacking the Jews, once again we see that Bob is content to rely on secondary sources. Apparently he will even let the mainstream liberal media instruct him, **and subsequently those who purchase his Catholic Apologetics Study Bible**, in the Catholic Faith.

"John Chance"-"Catholicresistence": aka Chris Campbell, CAI Promotions Director

A brief note to our readers for the purposes of raising general awareness. Chris Campbell, Promotions Director for CAI, is also active on the Internet on various message boards and blogs under the pseudonyms "catholicresistence" (sic) and "John Chance." If you happen to come across either of these names, be aware that you are reading the words of someone who actively promotes the anti-Semitic work of Bob Sungenis at CAI. As was demonstrated at Robert Sungenis and the Jews:

(Sungenis) continues to evidence a propensity to uncritically seek out and accept unsavory, dubious and/or negatively biased information in regard to Jews and has drawn others with similar proclivities to his website.


Here is a sampling of the various things you will find from Chris Campbell, aka "catholicresistence" and "John Chance":

1) A plagiarized article from Ted Pike (Israel, an anti-Christian Nation), a man with an entire website devoted to attacking Jews: here. (Pike's original article)

2) Conspiracy theories that blame Israel and the U.S. government for September 11th (scroll down to the article "News From 911 Truth Movement" and "Stop Belittling 911 Conspiracy Theories" ): here

3) Statements like this one, referring to "the illegal state of Zionist Israel" (scroll down to the article "Chat on Just War Theory"): here

4) Hurling the epithet "homos" at those with Same-Sex Attractions: here

5) A wide range of articles entirely reprinted without acknowledgement of the original source or author, and one assumes, without permission.

6) A statement that he "despises" Democrats, Republicans and Fundamentalists among others (scroll down to the bottom of the page under, ironically enough, "Welcome"): here

Campbell also visited Lumengentleman.com and left the following comment:

2/13/2007 3:58:49 PM

I see that though you left your former Evangelicalism, you still have a love affair w/Jews. Prob love Bush too and have a 'Support Israel" sticker on your car!!!

catholicresistence@yahoo.com (read here)


Chris is also the State Party Chairman for the Constitution Party in North Carolina (click here). Some of you may recognize the Constitution Party in connection with their presidential candidate for the 2004 elections, Michael Peroutka. Some of you may have even voted for Peroutka in 2004 because of his strong stance against abortion - both Jacob Michael and David Palm did. Michael Forrest preferred him to Bush as well.

However, there have been rumblings in certain sectors that the Constitution Party has strains of racism and/or anti-Semitism in it, and while we were inclined to completely ignore such claims prior to this, the fact that Chris Campbell, a tireless promoter of Sungenis' anti-Semitic material, occupies such a post in the Constitution Party gives one pause. One hopes that the party is unaware of this fact.

The Constitution Party:

Southern States Area Chairman
Contact: Jack McLain
Email: jnlfarm@bellsouth.net
Address: 16874 - 131st Way North
Jupiter, FL 33478
Home Phone: 561-741-7592

Constitution Party
23 North Lime St.
Lancaster, PA 17602
Toll Free: 1-800-2-VETO-IRS (1-800-283-8647)
Tel: 717-390-1993
Fax: 717-299-5115

Sungenis and Finkelstein: Two Birds of a Feather?

Robert Sungenis posted a glowing, unreserved recommendation for Norman Finkelstein's book, The Holocaust Industry. Along with the facts that Sungenis has apparently never even read the book and once again posted someone else's material as though it were his own (the original source is a review from Amazon.com: read here) criticism of this book has a very familiar ring to it. While the entire article is interesting, below is an excerpt:

The very scholar whose work on the Holocaust was the "stimulus" for this volume [Finkelstein's book], University of Chicago professor Peter Novick, warned that: "No facts alleged by Finkelstein should be assumed to be really facts, no quotation in his book should be assumed to be accurate, without taking the time to carefully compare his claims with the sources he cites. . . . Such an examination reveals that many of those assertions are pure invention ." Nor was he helped when New York Times reviewer Prof. Omer Bartov, an authority on genocide, characterized his book as "a novel variation on the anti-Semitic forgery, 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion' . . . brimming with indifference to historical facts, inner contradictions, strident politics . . . indecent . . . juvenile, self-righteous, arrogant and stupid."


Source

By way of full disclosure, the article above was written by Alan Dershowitz, a well-known, Jewish lawyer with a reputation for having extremely liberal views. But the most eye-opening parts of the article are the quotes from the well-respected scholars mentioned above and even arguably from Finkelstein himself.

Two other noteworthy quotes:

Mr. Finkelstein does not do "scholarship" in any meaningful sense. Although his writings center on Israel (which he compares to Nazi Germany) and the Holocaust, he has never visited Israel and cannot read or speak German--precluding the possibility of original scholarship.


and

Like other anti-Semites, Mr. Finkelstein generalizes about "the Jews"; for example: "Just as Israelis . . . courageously put unruly Palestinians in their place, so American Jews courageously put unruly Blacks in their place."



As one Traditionalist Catholic apologist recently put it upon reading this information, "Wow, do birds of a feather flock together, or what?"

Tuesday, April 24, 2007

Dr. Phil Blosser on Easter and Passover

A Joyous Passover

(Excerpt from Dr. Blosser's article):

I noticed in Sandro Magister's post on Good Friday, in which he offered Easter greetings in four different languages, that the English language is the only language of those four (English, Italian, French and Spanish) in which the term for Easter lacks any etymological connection to the Jewish word for Passover. Here they are:
Best Wishes for a Happy Easter! (English)
Tanti auguri di buona Pasqua! (Italian)
Joyeuses Pâques! (French)
¡Feliz Pascua de Resurrección! (Spanish)

'Pasqua', 'Pâques', and 'Pascua' are each etymologically derived from the term Pesach (Hebrew: פֶּסַח) or, more precisely, the verb "pasàch" (Hebrew: פָּסַח) which is first mentioned in the Old Testament account of the flight from Egypt (Exodus 12:23) in Moses' words that God "will pass over" the houses of the Children of Israel during the last of the Ten Plagues of Egypt, in which the first-born were killed. ("Passover," Wikipedia).

Read more here.

Friday, April 20, 2007

Catholic Culture Judges Sungenis Material "Blatantly Anti-Semitic"

Catholic Culture (formerly Petersnet) has the following relevant comments to offer about Robert Sungenis and Catholic Apologetics International:


Weaknesses:

· A tendency to rush to judgement and condemn others. (Fidelity) (Examples)

· Some material is blatantly anti-semitic. (Fidelity) (Examples)

Sungenis has elected to go beyond legitimate arguments about why the conversion of the Jews is a theologically legitimate objective. Instead, Sungenis has chosen to recycle the worst slurs and slanders in the anti-Semitic repertoire. (End Quote from Catholic Culture)

Thursday, April 19, 2007

Sungenis's Definition Difficulties

Throughout this controversy, Robert Sungenis has repeatedly demonstrated that he holds to totally different standards for himself compared to those to which he holds his opponents. Recently, he has complained bitterly that his critics have arbitrarily changed the definition of “anti-Semitism” simply in order to single him out:

Sungenis: “Notice that I, Robert Sungenis, have become the new criterion whereby “anti-semitism” is defined, rather than using the accepted definition that says anyone who says that he hates the Jews because of their race is anti-semitic. Mr. Forrest has reached a new height in the calumny – inventing his own definitions so that he can support his own condemnations.”
Article


This specific charge will be dealt with shortly, but it is important to consider this complaint within the larger context of Sungenis’s extreme double standard on the issue of “definitions” as a whole. The fact is, he has repeatedly done precisely that about which he complains: redefining terms in order to suit a particular agenda. Notice that Sungenis appeals to an "accepted definition" but never bothers to cite any official source for the definition. There's a simple reason for this. His "accepted definition" simply isn’t actually the “accepted definition.”


The following are five recent examples of Bob's arbitrary redefinition of terms: 1) Plagiarism 2) Judaizing 3) Vigilante 4) Calumny and 5) Anti-Semitism.

1) Plagiarism:

Robert Sungenis has on more than one occasion attempted to defend himself by redefining the term “plagiarism”:

Sungenis: "Plagiarism is the willful and intentional effort to copy and distribute for personal gain someone else’s legally published material."
Article, page 8


Here is the definition according to several authoritative sources, including Sungenis’s own alma mater:

a) Plagiarize: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the
source. intransitive verb: to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source (Merriam-Webster)

b) Plagiarism: The action or practice of taking someone else's work, idea, etc., and passing it off as one's own; literary theft. (Oxford English Dictionary)

c) Plagiarism is a serious infraction of the law of God and is punishable by measures determined by the faculty up to and including expulsion from the seminary...

Plagiarism is literary burglary. At its worst it involves an outright intent to deceive, to pass off another's work as one's own. More often, it is the result of carelessness or ignorance. But whether intentional or unintentional (the distinction is often hard to draw), plagiarism is always an error, and a serious one.

Whenever you borrow another writer's words or ideas, you must acknowledge the borrowing. ...When you use their words, their ideas, even their organization or sequence of ideas, say so--in a footnote or in the text. Claim as your own only what properly is your own. (Westminster Theological Seminary)


Notice the efforts to which Sungenis goes in order to carve out the exceptions through which he can escape the charge of plagiarism. But his problem remains- the actual definition from authoritative sources does not square with Sungenis’s unique definition.

Furthermore, even under his own definition, he is still guilty of plagiarism, since his articles are designed in part to elicit financial donations. More directly to the point, he has included some plagiarized material in a tape that he currently sells on his web site: Products-Tapes

In his three-tape set, "Conversion of the Jews Not Necessary?? A Critique of the USCCB 'Reflections' Document", Sungenis says:

"Benedict XIV continues: 'If any should ask what is forbidden by the Apostolic See to Jews dwelling in the same towns as Christians...he has only to read the Constitutions of the Roman Pontiffs, Our Predecessors, Nicholas IV, Paul IV, Saint Pius V, Gregory XIII, and Clement VIII, which are readily available, as they are to be found in the Bullarium Romanum'. The Dictionnaire* Apologetique de la Foi Catholique gives a long list of Papal Decrees condemning the Talmud and the Talmudic formation, since the Talmud became known to Catholics about 1238-1240." (Sungenis, audio cassette "Conversion of the Jews Not Necessary??", tape 1, side 1)


*Sungenis mispronounces the French word "dictionnaire" as the English "Dictionary." This last sentence, beginning "The Dictionnaire Apologetique ..." is taken verbatim from Fr. Denis Fahey's book The Kingship of Christ and the Conversion of the Jewish Nation:

"The Dictionnaire Apologetique de la Foi Catholique, in the article Juifs et Chretiens (cols. 1691-1694), gives a long list of Papal Decrees condemning the Tamud [sic] and the Talmudic formation, since the Talmud became known to Catholics about 1238-1240." (Fr. Denis Fahey, The Kingship of Christ and the Jewish Nation [Hawthorne, CA: Christian Book Club of America, 1987], p. 89)


Later in the tape set, Sungenis says:

"The Talmud is divided into six main divisions called 'Sedarim'. The Talmud is an assortment of every subject imaginable. Unfortunately, it is filled with obscenities and blasphemies of the highest order. It seeks to reverse many biblical moral teachings on theft, murder, sodomy, perjury, treatment of children and parents. Most of all, it has an unrelenting and virtually insane hatred of Christ, Christians and every aspect of Christianity ... A like hatred displayed in Talmudic Judaism is reserved for, and directed against, the believers of Christianity. They are called "enemies," "heathen," "idolators,"" and "goy-animals". Christians receive the Jewish curses of the 7th and 12th of the Eighteen Benedictions called the Shemoneh Esreh, which the orthodox Jew recites three times daily and four times on the Sabbath, or Jewish holidays. Thus Christians are cursed six times on ordinary days and eight times on special Jewish days." (Sungenis, audio cassette "Conversion of the Jews Not Necessary??", tape 3, side 2)


These two paragraphs are lifted verbatim from Elizabeth Dilling's book The Plot Against Christianity, later republished under the title The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today, and from Lt. Jack Mohr's book The Effects of the Talmud on Judeo-Christianity:

"The Talmud is divided into six main divisions called 'Sedarim' (orders), but each division and each volume is a hodge-podge of every subject imaginable. The main and overall characteristics of the Talmud are: pomp, silliness, obscenity and more obscenity, a setting up of laws seemingly for the purpose of inventing circumventions, and evasions; delight in sadistic cruelty; reversal of all Biblical moral teachings on theft, murder, sodomy, perjury, treatment of children and parents; insane hatred of Christ, Christians and every phase of Christianity." (Dilling, The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today [online source, p. 4)

"The supreme hatred of Talmudic Judaism is reserved for, and directed against, the believers of the Christian Bible ... You who believe the Christian Bible is the Word of God are classified as the primary enemies of Judaism. You are called "heathen," "Idolators," and "goy-animals" by your Jewish friends ... As a Christian, you receive the Jewish curses of the 7th and 12th of the Eighteen Benedictions called the SHEMONEH ESREH. The orthodox Jew recites this three times daily and four times on the Sabbath, or Jewish holidays. This means that Christians are cursed six times on ordinary days and eight times on special Jewish days." (Jack Mohr, The Effects of the Talmud of Judeo-Christianity, Chapter 7, online source )


Additionally, Ben Douglass has recently divulged the following information:

“At the second conference of Catholics Defending Biblical Inerrancy, one of Sungenis' speeches consisted essentially in him reading, without attribution, Damien Mackey's article ‘The Toledoths of Genesis.’ This speech was recorded on DVD. So, I recently asked Sungenis a few times whether he had ever sold this DVD for profit. Lo and behold, he refused to give a straight answer to my simple yes or no question.” Article


Sungenis has recently complained that "There was one instance, five years ago, in which I copied and pasted material for an article I wrote. I rearranged the wording so that I did not quote directly from the source, but Mr. Cork (who admits his family is Jewish) accused me of plagiarism", and "This was a private article which I had no intentions of publishing on the open market. Had I plans to publish it on the open market, every statement would have been properly footnoted and with a bibliography, as is the case with every book I have ever written." (Sungenis, Jacob Michael: Still Confused and Calumniating, p. 6) But as we can see, there are at least four verifiable examples of plagiarism, at least three of which are still being sold "on the open market" at CAI's web site today - Bob charges $18 for this three-tape set, in which he plagiarizes Fahey, Dilling, and Mohr. Of course, this is to say nothing of the book reviews and News Alerts taken from other sources that so regularly appear without any attribution at CAI. Bottom line: according to accepted definitions of the word, Bob Sungenis has plagiarized numerous times over the past five years.

2) Judaizing:

As Claudio Salvucci clearly demonstrated, Robert Sungenis has cavalierly redefined the meaning of this heresy in order to smear brother Catholics who converted from Judaism. Below are two representative statements made by Robert Sungenis:

"What is Judaizing? Simply put, it is the attempt to mix Judaism with Christianity."
Article


“not only do I contend that Moss and Schoeman are reintroducing a modern-day Judaizing theology, I would go so far as to say that it is a hyper-Judaizing theology. This is especially the case with Roy Schoeman, as he has outlined his case in his book, Salvation is from the Jews.”
Article



Yet, what is the actual definition of “Judaize”? Follow along with Claudio Salvucci:

The Catholic Encyclopedia of 1913 defines Judaizers more precisely as follows:

"A party of Jewish Christians in the Early Church, who either held that circumcision and the observance of the Mosaic Law were necessary for salvation and in consequence wished to impose them on the Gentile converts, or who at least considered them as still obligatory on the Jewish Christians."

The heresy is not, as Mr. Sungenis suggests, the mere mixing of the two religions, nor even the mere incorporation of Jewish rituals into the Church. Rather, the Judaizing heresy as condemned in Acts and elsewhere also involves the idea of moral necessity: i.e. that it is morally necessary for all Christians, Jews and Gentiles alike, to keep the Mosaic Law. A less extreme variant argued that it is morally necessary for Jewish Christians to keep the Mosaic Law, but that Gentile Christians are exempt from it.”


Sungenis is clearly guilty of redefining this term in order to fit his targets within it. But when one considers the actual, accepted definition, his charges against Schoeman, Moss, et al. fall flat.

3) Vigilante:

Sungenis: “Today, however, we have vigilante Catholics who think they can reinvent Catholic worship to suit their own tastes.”
Article


Here, Sungenis essentially redefines “vigilante” as someone who thinks “they can reinvent Catholic worship to suit their own tastes.” However, the following are the actual dictionary definitions of “vigilante”:

Vigilante: A member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily…a self-appointed doer of justice. (Merriam-Webster)

Vigilante: a person who tries in an unofficial way to prevent crime, or to catch and punish someone who has committed a crime, especially because they do not think that official organizations, such as the police, are controlling crime effectively. Vigilantes usually join together to form groups. (Cambridge online dictionary)


The irony, of course, is that by these authoritative definitions, Sungenis and a few of his most active supporters are the true vigilantes: self-appointed bishops who usurp the authority of true bishops by conducting what amounts to a kangaroo court, issuing condemnations and declarations of heresy based on often false or outright fabricated evidence.


4) Calumny:

While he has never actually offered his own unique definition, Robert Sungenis has given evidence of his definition by repeatedly accusing his critics of calumny. He has made accusations of calumny for bringing to light his own well-documented plagiarism, libel and anti-Semitic tendencies. For example:

Sungenis: “…leave it to a sinful slanderer like Jacob Michael to distort all this and make people think that I am a practicing plagiarist! This is calumny of the highest order…”
Article


Sungenis: “I have defended the ‘gory details’ against Mr. Palm’s calumny…I am not a bigot.”
Article

Sungenis: “Mr. Forrest has reached a new height in the calumny.” (In response to Forrest’s opinion that Sungenis is anti-Semitic).
Article


But here are accepted definitions of Calumny:

Fr. Hardon’s Catholic Dictionary: “Injuring another person’s good name by lying. It is doubly sinful, in unjustly depriving another of his good name and in telling an untruth…”

Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary: 1) a misrepresentation intended to blacken another’s representation 2) the act of uttering false charges or misrepresentations maliciously calculated to damage another’s reputation.


The reader will readily notice two important elements for calumny to be present: falsity of the charges and bad intent. In the case of Robert Sungenis, the charges leveled against him are all amply documented as true. And there is certainly no intent to deceive in order to harm his reputation; on the contrary, the intent is to present the truth about Sungenis. Therefore, by definition, there can be no calumny.

The reader should remember what prompted the charges against Sungenis in the first place: his own unjust and often false accusations against others. In fact it could much more easily be argued that Sungenis himself is a serial calumniator. He has calumniated Roy Schoeman -- from the fraudulent quote he attributed to Schoeman and stubbornly kept posted on his website, to completely erroneous charges that Schoeman is pushing for a corporate Jewish identity within the Church, to the charge that Schoeman is basically a Judaizing heretic -- in each case the charges were false and were intended to damage Schoeman's reputation, the very definition of calumny. Likewise he has calumniated Michael Forrest with a series of outright lies regarding his departure from CAI. He has calumniated Christopher Blosser and Leon Suprenant, accusing them of being pro-war Zionists without any evidence. There are other examples as well. Suffice it to say that Sungenis's double standards are in full view here.


4) Anti-Semitism:

This is the specific example that led Bob to cry foul with respect to the "accepted definition" of words. Anti-semitism is defined thusly by Robert Sungenis:


“the accepted definition...anyone who says that he hates the Jews because of their race.”

Article


This is perhaps the most preposterous and self-serving of Sungenis’s unique definitions. Under Sungenis’s definition, a person would have to both realize they are and openly admit to being an anti-Semite. But the fact is, in the spirit of St. James (2:14-18), a man's works and words speak clearly enough for themselves. There is no need to have access to Bob's interior disposition. His absolute culpability can only be judged by God. Nevertheless, by his words and actions he is reasonably viewed as at least a material anti-Semite.

Following are 8 definitions of anti-Semitism, none of which comport with Sungenis’s extremely narrow and self-serving definition:

1) Encarta World English Dictionary: behavior discriminating against Jews: policies, views, or actions that harm or discriminate against Jews. link

2) Oxford English Dictionary: Theory, action, or practice directed against the Jews. Hence anti-'Semite, one who is hostile or opposed to the Jews; anti-Se'mitic

3) Cambridge Dictionary: The strong dislike or cruel and unfair treatment of Jewish people. link

4) Dictionary.com: discrimination against or prejudice or hostility toward Jews. link

5) American Heritage Dictionary: 1) Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism. 2) Discrimination against Jews. link

6) Webster’s Collegiate: Hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic or racial group. link

7) OSV Catholic Dictionary: Prejudice against Jews, which has found expression from the time of the ancient Persian Empire.

8) New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy: Prejudice or hatred against Jews. link


Note especially the definitions given by the highly authoritative Oxford English Dictionary. That definition alone shows that one does not require access to another person's interior disposition to judge that they are guilty of anti-Semitism. The fact is, Sungenis’s writings, both in essence and frequency, exhibit a clear hostility towards and prejudice against Jews. He frequently jumps to the very worst conclusions when Jews are involved and he tends to believe accusations uncritically when he sees them. That is prejudice in the classic sense of the term. If I find that my wallet is missing and there are a few people in the room, one of whom is black, and I reflexively and repeatedly jump to the conclusion that the wallet was probably stolen...by the black guy, that’s prejudice. It’s the sort of thing Sungenis frequently does with Jews and it has been documented at length.

Many of the documented items have nothing to do with Zionism specifically or even Judaism more generally. The way they are phrased, the accusations are directed broadly at Jews as a whole, singling out their ethnic identity. And the extreme bias and recklessness with which he even criticizes Zionism and Judaism strongly suggests that a personal prejudice is at work.

While Sungenis has complained about Forrest’s suggestion that Catholics consider what we would find anti-Catholic and then apply that same standard to anti-Semitism, the idea is perfectly sound and reasonable, a matter of simple common sense. What is anti-Semitism in essence but prejudice and bigotry against Jews? And what better standard by which to judge the presence of prejudice and bigotry than to apply the Golden Rule? If we would consider certain behavior to be anti-Catholic when applied to us, then it is a matter of simple justice to conclude that we may not treat others in the same way.

It would be helpful to know if Sungenis no longer believes James White is an anti-Catholic. And what of Dave Hunt and Jack Chick? After all, they all claim to “love” Catholics, too. But the fact is that he quite rightly has seen what they do as anti-Catholic bigotry, yet at the same time he writes in the very same way against the Jews.

To Sungenis’s point about race vs. religion, of course such people don’t “hate” Catholics as a race of people because Catholics are not a race of people at all, we are exclusively a religious group. But they have an animus against what we believe, what we are precisely *as Catholics* and they misrepresent our faith in the process, regularly evidencing an inability to genuinely apologize for any of it. We rightly call that anti-Catholicism. When people believe the very worst at the drop of a hat and tend to ignore or refuse to believe the good…when they negatively stereotype people...when they refuse to retract dubious, spurious and scandalous charges when confronted with evidence or only remove them under sustained public pressure (without so much as a direct apology and public retraction)….then the claim to “love” rings incredibly hollow….this is legitimately termed “anti-whatever” whether based on race or religion. And this common sense approach comports with the real "accepted definition" of anti-Semitism, not Bob's fabricated one.

And so, in summary, it should be plain that along with a serious “source problem”, Robert Sungenis has a significant “definitions problem” as well.

As always with Sungenis: One standard for me, another for thee.